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		By: Bertil		</title>
		<link>https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-21</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bertil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 16:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-20&quot;&gt;Alexander Doderlein de Win&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Alexander


Thanks again! I fully agree with what you say, except for this line: &quot;This however might just move your blog too far away.&quot; :-) Nope, it is very much what I (am trying to) say, but indeed I struggle, as much as others, with the limitations that words have. (The irony of writing a blog post called &#039;Lost for Words&#039;)

I believe that experiences and other non-rational sensitivities should play a more significant and prominent role in decision making of individuals. In the end, every interpretation is a personal one and creates a &#039;local truth&#039;. When &#039;local truths&#039; are created, the generated ambiguity between different views (and its acceptance!) could surpass the limitations of our words.

I hope that this creates the insight that many of the challenges we face today are merely caused by systems that we have created (and exist only) in our mind.


Cheers
Bertil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-20">Alexander Doderlein de Win</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Alexander</p>
<p>Thanks again! I fully agree with what you say, except for this line: &#8220;This however might just move your blog too far away.&#8221; 🙂 Nope, it is very much what I (am trying to) say, but indeed I struggle, as much as others, with the limitations that words have. (The irony of writing a blog post called &#8216;Lost for Words&#8217;)</p>
<p>I believe that experiences and other non-rational sensitivities should play a more significant and prominent role in decision making of individuals. In the end, every interpretation is a personal one and creates a &#8216;local truth&#8217;. When &#8216;local truths&#8217; are created, the generated ambiguity between different views (and its acceptance!) could surpass the limitations of our words.</p>
<p>I hope that this creates the insight that many of the challenges we face today are merely caused by systems that we have created (and exist only) in our mind.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Bertil</p>
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		By: Alexander Doderlein de Win		</title>
		<link>https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-20</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander Doderlein de Win]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 11:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bertil,
oops, apologies for writing in dutch.
Reading your blog again, provides me with yet another point of view.
It poses me the question whether we will one day be able to fully capture our experience or thoughts in words.
Perhaps part of the answer lies in the combination of words and personal experience. 
Compare for instance the difficulty of text messages and its interpretation. Or in the case of a story on innovations, we often find it hard to understand since we have not experienced it ourselves.
The value of experience is more than just the observation or rational sensitivity. This however might just move your blog too far away.
TBC!
Regards, ALX

I believe that most interesting remains the way each of us interprets what is written and its value]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bertil,<br />
oops, apologies for writing in dutch.<br />
Reading your blog again, provides me with yet another point of view.<br />
It poses me the question whether we will one day be able to fully capture our experience or thoughts in words.<br />
Perhaps part of the answer lies in the combination of words and personal experience.<br />
Compare for instance the difficulty of text messages and its interpretation. Or in the case of a story on innovations, we often find it hard to understand since we have not experienced it ourselves.<br />
The value of experience is more than just the observation or rational sensitivity. This however might just move your blog too far away.<br />
TBC!<br />
Regards, ALX</p>
<p>I believe that most interesting remains the way each of us interprets what is written and its value</p>
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		By: Bertil		</title>
		<link>https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-19</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bertil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-18&quot;&gt;Alexander Doderlein de Win&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Alexander

(I hope you don&#039;t mind I reply in English, for the non-Dutch readers)
Thanks so much for your reply and great to hear from you. Great insights and inspires me to write an article about the points you raise. 

Just to clarify - I am not challenging science, quite the contrary. I see it as a source of inspiration to solve non-science / societal problems. When scientists discover two conflicting scientific facts, they realise that these truths can only co-exist if there is another unknown or undefined dimension. My article is basically stating that in society too we perhaps need to add another dimension, to overcome conflicting &#039;truths&#039;. 

Fully agree with your point to keep looking, comparing and thinking without judgement... and to fully enjoy life!


Cheers
Bertil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-18">Alexander Doderlein de Win</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Alexander</p>
<p>(I hope you don&#8217;t mind I reply in English, for the non-Dutch readers)<br />
Thanks so much for your reply and great to hear from you. Great insights and inspires me to write an article about the points you raise. </p>
<p>Just to clarify &#8211; I am not challenging science, quite the contrary. I see it as a source of inspiration to solve non-science / societal problems. When scientists discover two conflicting scientific facts, they realise that these truths can only co-exist if there is another unknown or undefined dimension. My article is basically stating that in society too we perhaps need to add another dimension, to overcome conflicting &#8216;truths&#8217;. </p>
<p>Fully agree with your point to keep looking, comparing and thinking without judgement&#8230; and to fully enjoy life!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Bertil</p>
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		By: Alexander Doderlein de Win		</title>
		<link>https://mindliberator.org/2016/02/01/lost-for-words/#comment-18</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Bertil,

wellicht zijn we inderdaad aan het einde van ons huidige wetenschappelijke model van de wereld.
Wat is waar? 100-duizenden wetenschappers zijn verder aan het zoeken in ons huidige model en zijn daar hun gehele leven mee bezig. Wellicht niet zo slim om teveel van je tijd dus daar als individu aan te besteden.
Wel slim om in te gaan zien dat - bijvoorbeeld - juist die ambiguïteit overal op gaat. Oordelen is dus niet erg zinvol.
Vandaar lijkt mij dat het goed is om in je leven te blijven kijken, vergelijken en denken hoe jij het ziet, zonder dus een oordeel te hoeven vellen. Zo blijft het leven een wonderlijke ontdekking en gebeuren er dus veel mooie dingen. Geniet daarvan.

Kortom, drink een kop koffie met vrienden, zet een leuke boom op en maak het gezellig.
De werkelijke vraag is wat dit alles met jou doet.
groet Alexander]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bertil,</p>
<p>wellicht zijn we inderdaad aan het einde van ons huidige wetenschappelijke model van de wereld.<br />
Wat is waar? 100-duizenden wetenschappers zijn verder aan het zoeken in ons huidige model en zijn daar hun gehele leven mee bezig. Wellicht niet zo slim om teveel van je tijd dus daar als individu aan te besteden.<br />
Wel slim om in te gaan zien dat &#8211; bijvoorbeeld &#8211; juist die ambiguïteit overal op gaat. Oordelen is dus niet erg zinvol.<br />
Vandaar lijkt mij dat het goed is om in je leven te blijven kijken, vergelijken en denken hoe jij het ziet, zonder dus een oordeel te hoeven vellen. Zo blijft het leven een wonderlijke ontdekking en gebeuren er dus veel mooie dingen. Geniet daarvan.</p>
<p>Kortom, drink een kop koffie met vrienden, zet een leuke boom op en maak het gezellig.<br />
De werkelijke vraag is wat dit alles met jou doet.<br />
groet Alexander</p>
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